Will you or won't you?

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Will you or won't you?

Postby Judith » Sun May 04, 2014 9:00 pm

Will you or won’t you?

We all have to prepare to leave the planet sometime, though we hope with the help of changing our bodies, our minds and our spirits after diagnosis this may not happen any time soon.

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BUT we need to have things in place and know how to go about it.

‘Sooner or later the urn is broken’ said the Roman poet Horace about 30BC, , and that of course applies to every single human being ‘a little boat will take us’ –well Horace said ‘to eternal exile’—whatever your belief system on that one, there are things which happen around this transition point, and this forum will be one for collecting our combined thoughts.

And Horace’s Odes are worth a look too: the English poet Tennyson declared that the Odes provided "jewels five-words long, that on the stretched forefinger of all Time / Sparkle for ever"

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First up here are two links to talks by Domenico Barasio on palliative care: He talks about the need to accept death as part of life, and points out that it has similarities with birth.. read on…

Domenico Borasio and palliative care: http://www.goethe.de/ges/phi/eth/en4757631.htm
And YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9R6YPuFu-7I
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Re: Yes you will die sometime and don't be scared of death..

Postby Judith » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:41 am

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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle ... -afterlife

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This article sums up much of what is also on this forum of our site: good to read it whether or not you have religious beliefs....

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And here are the views of Andreas Moritz, who has now left the planet, whose book Cancer is Not a Disease, It's a Survival Mechanism is reviewed in our Library Section - about losing the fear of dying-
http://www.thevortex.me/andreas-moritz-cause-of-death/

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Re: Will you or won't you?

Postby Judith » Tue Apr 07, 2015 7:47 pm

Well the stuff in Seamus Heaney's head was worth saving- but here is a good poem by James Laughlin which might help us all to de-junk, physically and mentally, before we leave the planet? It makes you feel a lot lighter too-


The Junk Collector
what bothers me most about
the idea of having to die

(sooner or later) is that
the collection of junk I

have made in my head will
presumably be dissipated

not that there isn't more
and better junk in other

heads & always will be but
I have become so fond of

my own head's collection

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Thanks to Andrew the Ideas Man for giving us this....
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Re: Will you or won't you?

Postby Mariza » Sat May 23, 2015 10:25 pm

The book "Star Rover" by Jack London helps to understand the dilemma: life & death.

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Here's one quote to whet your appetite:


“It is life that is the reality and the mystery. Life is vastly different from mere chemic matter fluxing in high modes of motion. Life persists. Life is the thread of fire that persists through all the modes of matter. I know. I am life. I have lived ten thousand generations. I have lived millions of years. I have possessed many bodies. I, the possessor of these many bodies, have persisted. I am life. I am the unquenched spark ever flashing and astonishing the face of time, ever working my will and wreaking my passion on the cloddy aggregates of matter, called bodies, which I have transiently inhabited.”
― Jack London, The Star Rover
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Re: Will you or won't you?

Postby Mariza » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:15 pm

Fernando Pessoa, the greatest Portuguese poet, wrote a poem called:

DEATH´s the ROAD-BEND

Death´s the road-bend,to die
´s to be out of sight,no more.
I hear,real as I,
You going on before.

Earth is made of heaven.
Lies have nests? Not they.
No-one´s been lost,ever.
All is truth and way.

(23-5-32)

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN READING AN EXTRA PIECE ON DEATH, GO TO THE FORUM: MIND & SPIRIT AND FOCUS ON "LIFE AFTER DEATH".
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Re: Will you or won't you? 'When we've gone'..

Postby Lorraine1981 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:19 am

This post was sent to us by one of our members who wants to remain anonymous, in response to the post further down about writing a posthumous e mail:
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HOW CAN I PUT IT?

When I die,
I said to my friend, I want you to know.
I'll ask my kids
to tell you.

Good, she replied
I'll do the same.

Next time we met
She'd had a better idea.
'I'll write an email
for my son to send
to all the friends
in my address book
then everybody knows
with just one click!'
That sounds quick, I said
what would the message say?

That is more difficult, she said
and I agreed.
Poetry? Possibly...
Prayers? Well perhaps...Prose?
Something simple...a joke? ..why not
?
We spent a lovely afternoon
cups of tea, the sun shone,

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devising ways to tell our friends
'we've gone'.
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Re: Will you or won't you?

Postby Lorraine1981 » Thu Mar 10, 2016 10:19 am

Sorry this is a repeat post and we haven't found out to move it yet!! Bear with us....

HOW CAN I PUT IT?

When I die,
I said to my friend, I want you to know.
I'll ask my kids
to tell you.
Good, she replied
I'll do the same.

Next time we met
She'd had a better idea.
'I'll write an email
for my son to send
to all the friends
in my address book
then everybody knows
with just one click!'
That sounds quick, I said
what would the message say?

That is more difficult, she said
and I agreed.
Poetry? Possibly...
Prayers? Well perhaps...Prose?
Something simple...a joke? ..why not?
We spent a lovely afternoon
cups of tea, the sun shone,
devising ways to tell our friends
'we've gone'.
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